The Landers Group

by Willy Franzen on May 23, 2008

The Landers Group Logo

One Day, One Job is about helping college students find great entry-level jobs. We’ve always taken this literally by featuring companies that look like great places to work (we can’t ever be 100% on this, but we do our best). Well, a big part of finding a great first job is avoiding the not so great (or really awful) jobs that are out there, so, today, we are going to look at a company called The Landers Group, which has been identified as a scam by people online and in the media. As it gets later in the post-graduation job hunting season, many new grads become desperate. It makes them easy prey for employment scams like those peddled by The Landers Group.

I’m Smart, I Don’t Fall for Scams

Yeah, that’s what suckers say. How do we know that smart people fall for these scams? We’ve seen it happen. One of my friends is a freshman at an Ivy League school. He was torn between getting a summer job or an internship, so he was looking at all kinds of options. He told me that he had landed an interview with a really cool sports marketing company. Being a reader of One Day, One Internship, he knew to contact us with questions on how to research a potential employer. He had already scheduled an interview with the company for when he returned home, but he sent us the name of the company (The Landers Group) so that we could tell him a little bit more about it. Within seconds we found a number of Google results that indicated he was in for a learning experience (but not the kind you want to get out of your internship). Our friend is a smart kid. He’s proactive and trying to get a Summer internship even though he’s only a freshman. He was about to get burned.

Why You’ll Fall For It

We’ve never had firsthand experience with The Landers Group or any other company that follows similar business practices, but we’ve found enough evidence through our research to indicate that any time spent in contact with one of these companies is wasted. You will usually find these jobs listed on major job boards with titles like “Sports and Entertainment Marketing – Entry Level Positions.” The job description will go into great detail about all of the wonderful things that await those who apply – excellent pay, travel opportunities, learning experiences, and quick advancement. Take a look at all of The Landers Group’s Job Postings on CareerBuilder. They’ll also brag about their amazing client list. From their website:

One by one The Landers Group has added every major sports team in Southern California to its portfolio. No other advertising and marketing firm in the area can make the same claim… Our unparalleled portfolio includes the Los Angeles Dodgers, the LA Clippers, the LA Kings, the Anaheim Mighty Ducks, MLS’ Chivas USA, the UCLA Bruins, and also clients such as Crowne Plaza Resorts, Disneyland, and Sea World. Our unique grass-roots marketing approach has given our clients a valuable edge in the marketplace and it places them front and center in the public eye!

Since it seems that Sports and Entertainment Marketing are extremely popular fields with college students, these job listings must get viewed thousands of times. Many of those who read the job descriptions get excited and apply. We don’t have a reference to back this up, but we’re going to guess that everyone who applies gets an interview.

The “Interview” Process

It’s relatively likely that your “interview” with The Landers Group might be your first ever job interview. Whether you realize that something’s fishy depends on how perceptive you are. We’ve heard that their secretary will not refer to the company by name, probably because they operate under multiple names and don’t want you to realize it. Your first interview will most likely be informational, where they’ll continue the pitch that they started in the job posting. Any questions about what the company actually does or what their entry-level jobs are like will probably get a vague response. You’re also likely to hear, “You’ll have to see it to believe it.” Since scammers usually don’t turn away people, we’re going to guess that you’ll get asked back for a second interview too.

The second interview is where you’ll really get to see The Landers Group in action. You will be tagging along with one of the company’s employees. The story usually goes that you end up in a sketchy car with a sketchy person going to a sketchy neighborhood. Once you get there, you find out what The Landers Group does. They sell coupons door to door. Remember that amazing client list? That’s whose coupons you will be selling. You’ll be given one side of the street, and the employee will take the other. You’ll essentially spend the day working for free. How do we know? We’ve found stories from people who have done it like this and this. If you’re lucky, you’ll just end up having wasted a day. If you’re not, you may end up stranded many miles from home or having had a gun pointed at you and with mud all over your only suit.

How to Avoid Getting Burned

Now that you’ve read about The Landers Group, you will hopefully know to avoid these scams. If you’re not sure whether an employer is legitimate, use what we’ve taught you to do some employer research. Our articles How to Use Google to Find a Job and Turning the Tables: Digging Dirt on Employers are both excellent resources that will teach you what to need to know. Often, finding out the truth is as easy as doing a Google search with the company name and the word scam – here are the results for “The Landers Group scam.” Also, remember that these companies use major job boards as their main recruiting tool. Don’t think that because something is listed on Monster, Yahoo! HotJobs, or CareerBuilder it is legitimate – anyone can pay to post their jobs on these sites.

Don’t forget that The Landers Group operates under a variety of names. There are also many other companies that use similar business practices to recruit unsuspecting college students into bum jobs. The stories are often different, but the end result is usually the same. Although The Landers Group is focused quite heavily on selling an actual product, some of these companies are even skeezier. Instead of selling, you’ll be doing their bidding by recruiting more suckers to work for you recruiting more suckers. In general these types of operations are known as Multi-Level Marketing (MLM) operations, and they should be avoided unless you are completely comfortable with what you’re getting into. Here’s a post from the Consumerist on other operations that are using tactics similar to those of The Landers Group.

A List of Companies Known to Have Similar Practices

  • The Landers Group
  • Kelly Advertising
  • Granton Marketing
  • DS Max
  • After Five Marketing Group
  • Dalton Management
  • Innovage

This is by no means a comprehensive list. If you know of other companies that should be added, please leave a comment with the company’s name and a reference or personal story telling us why they should be included.

Links to Help You Begin Your Research

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Elyse May 23, 2008 at 10:59 am

About three days after posting my resume on Monster.com, I received two recruiting emails from well known companies. After rereading them (in slight disbelief) I realized that they showed many of the signs of your typical phishing scam.

TL May 23, 2008 at 12:12 pm

These companies are all over many popular job sites. They tout event marketing, public relations opportunities, management training, and more. I worked at SV Marketing in Tampa, Florida (also known as Sloan Vinson Marketing) for one month. I never got stranded, and I never got a gone pulled on me, but I did feel scammed and like I was scamming others.

The deal with this company is ‘updating customer’s Verizon bills’. Basically, it was our job to pull Verizon bills from current customers (or other companies, if you’re really good) and call Verizon to make changes. The job is 100% commission, based on certain changes you are able to make to customer’s bills. A few times this may actually save the customer money, but many times it will in fact be more expensive. The recruiting of other employees is a large part of all these scams. The more people you recruit, the more money you make off their commissions. Once you are in the door and recruiting, they tell you all the techniques they used to get you in. To questions of ‘do you pay for gas’, you either avoid it, or say yes- it’s a tax write-off. Just save your receipts, including those for your suits, shoes, car, etc. and get it all back later!

As soon as you have enough experience and employees under you, you have the ‘opportunity’ to move to another location and start your very own business doing the same thing, or selling something very similar (including Staples.com), hence the sheer number of companies that do this.

Not a fun experience- don’t fall for it!

Willy Franzen May 27, 2008 at 3:36 pm

We found a list of more companies that are either the same as the Landers Group or use similar business practices here: http://www.bigbadmusic.com/scams.htm

We can’t vouch for the accuracy of the list, but here it is anyway.

Evincex Enterprises
Smart Circle International
The Landers Group
Ds-max
Cydcor
Granton Marketing
Innovage
Child Safety Enterprises, Inc
Hyphire
HBH Global Promotions
Bullet Marketing Enterprises, Inc. – Fort Worth, TX
CA Enterprises – Menomonee Falls, WI
CA Enterprises – Fort Worth, TX
Aurora Marketing Group
The Advertisment
Crescent International
SC Marketing Group in Louisville, KY
JSTARR Advertising Platinum Marketing (“they are in the process of changing there name to Madison Marketing”)
Emprise
Arsene-Lee Advertising Group
International Marketing Strategies
MJ Promotional Group/Trinity Advertising, both part of grantonmarketing.com
granton marketing/dsmax has three other divisions in massachusetts: JSJ & Associates, the Kaizen Group, and MPMD, Inc
Gemini Communications in Austin, Texas
Playermakerpromo.com
Lear Marketing Group and Black Diamond Solutions are parts of cydcor.com in Columbus, OH.
“R3 Enterprises” winter park, FL
niko-laos in tampa, fl., Niko-Laos in Tampa, FL.
Northside Marketing
Quantum Marketing Group
Strictly Advertising, Inc. (Miami, FL)
Wentworth Marketing in Denver
“Compass Global Network” in Dallas TX
“Greco Marketing” in San Francisco, CA.
The Yasny Group in Irvine CA
Westward Innovations of Phoeniz, AZ.
MJ Promotional Group of Cincinnati, OH
Jenlyn Consulting in Houston TX
Marketing Sessions (chicago area)
SASMarketing Group (also chicago area)
DeFrancesco Aquisitions, Inc. located in Pittsburgh, PA.
The Advertising Group, Inc in SF CA
Gen X Promotions Cincinnati, Ohio “(the writer thinks there’s also subsidary called Bravo Promotions, but they may be out of Indianapolis)”
D.B. Consulting
J.S. & Associates
Darr Innovations
Top Flight Enterprises located in Pittsburgh, PA.
Aspirations, Inc. in Virginia Beach, VA.
Hilltop Solutions, Inc., located in San Diego.
The Everest Group, or Cambridge Communications (also Premier Marketing Concepts from Melville NY)
Atlantic Consulting located in East Rutherford, NJ
Wincor, Inc., Seattle, WA (actually there office is in Renton)
Woodlynn Advertising, Inc. in Houston TX
The Everest Group, Inc. DUNN HILL ENTERPRISES
Yenkro Enterprises, Inc. Greco Marketing
DeFrancesco Acquisitions
Direct Link Marketing
COR Concepts
JM Concepts
Triple Crown Marketing
5 Point Marketing
Elite promotional Group

Rick June 9, 2008 at 11:02 pm

THis article is very informational. I have a interview tomorrow but now I’m totally going to blow it.

Willy Franzen June 9, 2008 at 11:10 pm

Rick, don’t go to the interview and blow it on purpose. That’s a waste of everyone’s time. Just don’t go. You’ll be much better off.

Sean June 12, 2008 at 2:08 am

Wow I am so glad I found this, I had an interview with them tomorrow but guess thats canceled LOL

Willy Franzen June 17, 2008 at 9:29 pm

Another person whom we’ve saved from interviewing with The Landers Group! I’m glad we could help.

Kristin June 20, 2008 at 8:12 pm

I wanted to add a company to the list called BMF Global. It started off as the Landers Group in California, but they started a “new” company, changed their name, and set up an office in Tigard, Oregon. Just don’t even put yourself through the hell of interviewing, which will consist of a 10 hour day and pissing people off as you walk door to door and interrupting people’s business. They interview about 30 people a day- that’s how bad the turnover rate is. Seriously, NOT worth it!

Sean June 24, 2008 at 2:43 pm

I had the exact same experience with company in Orange Co. Ca. Scanno Advertising. I was interviewed and hired the same day, and went door to door in the city selling coupons. I also quit that day realizing that it was scam. I actually wanted to walk out that morning realizing that it was a scam, it seemed more like a cult than a business

Erika July 1, 2008 at 10:12 pm

So, now that I have read the comments-it sucks!! I have an interview tomorrow :O( I’m really interested in getting into the advertising industry- any suggestions?

Willy Franzen July 1, 2008 at 10:23 pm

Hi Erika,

Yes, it appears that The Landers Group sucks. You’re best bet is to not show for your interview tomorrow. It is not worth your time. As for an advertising job, we’ve posted about plenty of them here: http://www.onedayonejob.com/tag/advertising/

MK July 9, 2008 at 12:23 am

M.A.X.I.S. Consulting is across the parking lot from BMF Global in Tigard.

Their office felt like it ran very similarly and after doing some research, other people have had the same problem.

Don’t go to MAXIS or BMF Global in Tigard.

J July 9, 2008 at 3:36 pm

I worked for a division of the Landers Group, and was actually promoted to management in 8 months. Essentially it is a business opportunity, not an employment position, which most people are geared for. Though it requires a lot of hard and mundane work, it can lead to a lot of money. It is definitely not the cool advertising gig you see on romantic chick flicks.

Yes, the company is misleading, they have been for years. As the internet grows, so does their business. Now they are getting more into event marketing, which doesn’t seem as shady. It really depends on which division you are interviewing for. Some people go business to business, door to door, or sit in a Costco and pitch home improvement quotes. Basically it’s all direct market advertising.

After getting into management though, I always felt as if I was lying, and I was never okay with that. After 4 months in management, I couldn’t handle it anymore, and I decided to leave. Yes, the money was great, but I just didn’t want to do it anymore.

For those of you looking for an advertising position, you’ll find the good jobs are really cutthroat. You will easily be competing with hundreds of people for entry level positions, but you won’t have to sell anything, and you can carry your Starbucks coffee into the boardroom.

Landers is really more for people with little to no experience, though most people who get into management have advanced degrees like myself. You have to have an entrepreneurial spirit which isn’t inherent in most Americans who are raised and educated to be employees. If you’re looking for something challenging mentally, don’t work at the Landers Group. Out of 100 people that come through their doors, 20 will stay. Of those 20, 1 out of 100 will get into management. Out of those managers, 1 of 5 will stay long term. So the shot of getting into management and actually making it are much less than 1%.

Essentially it isn’t a scam, you can do it, they just aren’t forthcoming with how likely it is that you do make it, and they really don’t have the personnel there, or the support to make sure you do.

Willy Franzen July 10, 2008 at 12:44 pm

J, thanks for adding a new perspective to the conversation. You say that Landers is not a scam, but then you say that they are very misleading. I guess it depends what your definition of a scam is. It’s good to know that there are people who can actually make good money from Landers, but it certainly doesn’t sound like it’s worth it.

Lyn July 14, 2008 at 3:31 am

I have an interview with the Lander’s Group tomorrow, but after this I am definitely opting out. So glad I googled it before I went! Thanks so much for the heads-up!!

Rob July 15, 2008 at 7:23 pm

I had an interview set up for tomorrow, thanks to this site I am not going, its hard for recent college grads like to to get a decent entry level job, and it is despicable that there are these companies that try and exploit us, thanks for the information and the onedayonejob.com website, I’ll check it out.

Anna July 17, 2008 at 6:29 pm

Thank you so much! I also had an interview tommrow and I’m not going now.

Paula July 18, 2008 at 12:29 pm

Please add Dynasty Marketing to your list in Wisconsin. They are the new name for Avalon Advertising located same address and telephone number.

Eric July 19, 2008 at 2:54 pm

Global Visions Inc. is the same thing in Cincinnati, OH. T.H. Executives is the same thing in Columbus, OH. GDP Marketing is very similar in Cincinnati, OH. I spent a day with Global Visions, and it was the exact same story. Selling coupon books. Smart Circle International seems to be the parent company of many of these businesses, including Global Visions in Cincinnati.

J July 21, 2008 at 10:39 pm

THAX my friend told that it was a scam, i have a interview tomorrow.. THAX John..lol

Ellen July 21, 2008 at 11:49 pm

Recruiting firms: This must be the way to go!
Dynasty in WI is a scam, your right Paula. I did a reverse phone search and found Avalon advertising group!
I like to research a company to be prepared for a productive interview and I guess this one I can save my time on!

Chris August 14, 2008 at 10:00 pm

Add the Acquisition Group inc. in Framingham Ma. to your list http://www.theacqgroup.com/

I went back for my “second interview” and spent the day shadowing a sales rep who was selling Verizon contracts to business customers. It was a total waste of time and they are very shady in their business practices. A total pyramid scheme.

AR August 15, 2008 at 5:10 pm

Just did their second interview and these people are total scammers! I asked several questions regarding their benefits, why they dont leave business cards/numbers, that sort of thing and the woman totally dodged my questions and tried to justify it with stupid excuses. My gut told me to leave, but instead i stayed so this is a warning to young students out there in need of a job, you will be slave labor to them. if you believe that you were one of the chosen few, you are not. Don’t be fooled they are constantly recruiting people to get more people to sell their deals (which by the way they profit immensely from!).

J.A.S August 18, 2008 at 1:04 am

Hmm…I went to a secondary interview recently for a company called “Emerald Concepts” in Houston, but I had to leave early because of an emergency. Now looking back at my experience and this report, I think this company is in the same boat with them. From the beginning I had my doubts, but my suspicions were aroused on the so-called secondary interview. We were cross-selling “Smart Circle” products with highly dubious vacation packages.

I’m glad I’m cancelling the interview!

CEM August 18, 2008 at 8:21 pm

take this article seriously!!! i relocated from another city and this was the first job i could get. i knew something was shady with how hard the lead manager was selling the job after my “day of observation” (this is when you go door to door with someone who has been at the job for a month or two). but because i was new in town, i had to take the job until i could get something else more stable and less like the “Boiler Room” (great movie about this exact situation) it’s basically a pyramid. you have a team leader and he has 3 people on his team. his boss is in charge of a few team leaders and that guy’s boss is in charge of the firm. if you stay long enough, you can move to the middle of the pyramid.
anyway i did the job for about 7 or 8 days. not sure exactly how long because i’ve tried to block it out to avoid an emotional breakdown ;-)
HERE IS HOW A DAY OF WORK GOES: you get to the office at 8:30 and spend the morning working on your “pitch” with other people and get pep talks from the upper management who will spend their day surfing and shopping while you are going door to door (i live in San Diego). around 10am you and a few other people get assigned to a certain territory and each of you is assigned a certain square mile to go door to door. you cover the same houses 3 times during the day: mid morning, 2pm, 5pm. the worst round is at 5pm when everyone is home from work, tired, and pissy. of 100 doors you knock on, you may close 1 person (if you’re lucky). you get a 30 minute lunch break but other than that, you’re walking and knocking all day. at the end of the shift you are taken back to the office and everyone meets to review who made how many sales that day. and if you made more than $100 that day, you get to ring a cowbell and be praised. yes, i’m serious. by this time it’s about 9pm and you get to go home just to come back and do it all over again the next day.
they also encouraged us to work on saturdays too. like others have said, this job is strictly commission.
on my last day, i heard a guy talking about how he had to pawn some of his stuff just to pay the bills. it was around that time that i realized that aside from the heads of the firm, i was the one of the few who had to worry about paying rent without help from a roommate or family. also on my last day there was a girl doing her day of observation. no one would answer her about benefits and the pay but i told her the truth. she had a disabled husband and kids to take care of. it was the worst job i’ve ever had but hopefully i at least saved that one girl from taking the position.
i have so much empathy for those people whenever i see them in my neighborhood now.
hopefully seeing what their day looks like will give you some insight and steer you away from this waste of time job.

Christian K. August 19, 2008 at 9:31 am

Very similar to Easter Enterprises’ tactics. They advertise a bunch of positions, and when you get there, its a big group “interview” and a sales pitch to go door-to-door and sell vacuum cleaners. If you live in Kettering or Dayton, Ohio, watch out for these guys.

someonein LA September 8, 2008 at 12:25 pm

Go to the DX- Max or DS- Max website, and you will all find a strong alumni of people who worked for this company or related companies.

This company started in Canada, and it has grown world wide. when authorities find out and shut down one company, these people open a new one.

I hear there was a big “Caos” day and many people walked out….. My son LOVED the people he worked with when he was at this company, and because of the people he stuck it out of a couple of months… but then he got a better job marketing across the US, where he gets all benefits, and things are good.

I watched my son work 72 hour weeks, trying to make things work. I saw my son get sick, and it was sheer exhaustion. He has not been sick with his new job…….

I think You should create an alumni of workers from the Landers Group…. I think you might all be friends one day, and something good will come out of all this.

As for whats him name…. MATT KELLY— well I hope I have put so much pressure on him that he cracks… I know he has money problems.. could not happen to a better person. And then there is his co horts..

Yes, for anyone who reads this….. run as fast as you can.. This is job is not worth your time, effort, money or a nervous breakdown….

T-Bone September 11, 2008 at 2:04 pm

SEAM Marketing in Baltimore is a big SCAM and a waste of time.

retired marine September 14, 2008 at 9:45 am

I just recently interviewed with these people. I spent last Friday going around and trying to sell packages for discounted prices. I honestly feel like I am doing something unjust especially when you go around business to business when people are absolutely busy! They told me that out of 15 people they interveiwed I was one out of the three that they chose to hire. Shortly, I learned that they are continously hiring more people every day to sell their packages. I honestly thought that I did really good to get hired. This company is called Elite Promotions Group located in Birmingham, Alabama. The job advancement opportunities sound too good to be true. It only has been 2 days since I accepted the opportunity to work for them. I noticed that most of the distributors there were anywhere from 19-27 years of age. Really young! And most of these people don’t even have a degree, they are either fresh out of high school or out of the military!!!! I wish I would have looked them up before I wasted my time going up there. I live too far to be scammed!

someonein LA September 16, 2008 at 8:49 pm

Join the thousands world wide who once worked for this group.. there are too many to count!!!

http://groups.msn.com/DSMAXTheAftermath

the surf boy September 16, 2008 at 9:08 pm

Does any one know where Davis went? He said he left the company to go to Europe and never returned to the company.

the surf boy September 16, 2008 at 9:34 pm

Here is a mini test for you to take…

This is in response to a recent poll by happynow that has gotten a lot of attention. I’d like to hear the perspective from people out side of the US. Is the ds-max name as suppressed international as it is here in the US? Please let us know. Thank you for your time:

If you are a new member here & have quit the business in the last year or so I have a little questionnaire for you.

While you were in the business,

1. Did you ever hear of the word DS-MAX?

2. Did you ever hear of the word WWI?

3. Did you ever hear of Larry Tennebaum or Avie Roth?

4. Did anyone ever promote how large this type of business was? (e.g. # of offices in # countries)

5. On average, how many hours a day were you at work?

6. On average, how much did you clear p/week?

7. Did your manager own a car? (make & model if you know) Did he have his own apartment or live with his guys?

8. Did you ever get arrested or ticketed by the police while in the field?

9. Did you pull your Day of Observation out of atmosphere & “bottom line” them before you would have them meet with your manager? (Something like this, “Look, my manager is looking at bringing on 2 people tonight so I need to know if you are willing to start tomorrow & give 110% & then maybe I can get you in to see him.”)

10. On average, what was the percentage of smokers in your office?

Extra Credit:

11. Which of these numbers does not belong.

107 307 53 230 11 701

nick b September 22, 2008 at 6:34 pm

I had to drive an hour to get to my first interview for Landers Group last week. I thought it was wierd cuz I walked out 5 minutes later with a second interview, still not knowing much at all about the job. I was supposed to drive all the way back out there tomorrow for the second interview, but instead, I’ll be staying home and do some more job hunting.
I’m stoked I researched them a little bit more. Thanks a lot!

jackie September 23, 2008 at 7:12 pm

Oh gosh im glad i googled The Landers Group and ran into this website, i had an interview with them tommorow but guess what,its canceled now!!! THANK U SO MUCH FOR INFORMING THE PUBLIC:)!!!

tom September 25, 2008 at 1:59 am

THERE IS A COMPANY LIKE THIS IN LODI NEW JERSEY CALLED “WORLD ACCESS MARKETING” THEY SPECIALIZE IN SCREWING PPL OVER SELLING FAKES EXC,,,

Jared October 2, 2008 at 4:45 pm

I had the exact same experience at the same affiliated company called BMF Global in Tigard. I actually ended up sticking it out for four days at BMF Global and tried to sell their coupons. I was promised the first day by the manager of the office to get paid at least 50 dollars a day while I was training. Every day I worked almost twelve hours and tried to sell the coupans to angry business owners not wanting to be solicited to while they were trying to make a living. Anyways I never ended up getting paid any money and by the end of my training after being promised to get paid the next day for my training. My the end of the fourth day I demanded I get paid what I was promised by Alex the manager of BMF Global. Needless to say I did not get paid what I was promised. Beware of BMF Global, the Landers Group, and anything to do with Smart Circle advertising. It is a scam and watch out for thier managers Alex and Phil. They will promise you the world and you will get nothing in return.

George October 9, 2008 at 1:13 am

World Access Marketing sounds like a huge scam. Anyone out there actually work for the company and have proof that it is a scam. I tried telling my buddy and he doesn’t believe me because he says that everyone working there has such high hopes and they’re great to work with. Has anyone working for that company actually made tons of money…besides the guys who thought of the scam?

steve October 22, 2008 at 11:06 pm

I need your help to shut all these companies including THE LANDERS GROUP DOWN!!! Join the conversation NOW!!!!

Malicious job post
Malicious job posts
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

A malicious job post is a mischievous in motivation or purpose post of employment of placed text on a Web site, submitted to a legitimate career search engine, from a business which practices business models similar to Multi-level marketing. The intent of the posting is to lure in as many possible job candidates, without concern for the candidates education, experience, or skills. Businesses posting these “jobs” are legal, entry level, and involve multi-level marketing. While the legality of these businesses is not questioned, the legitimacy of these businesses is. Some criticisms include: Clogging up legitimate career search engines, group interviews, wasting career seekers time, and a lack of consideration for genuine employment. The posts are considered “Malicious” based on the companies intent to lure in as many possible candidates, with the premeditated knowledge that the company’s business model is similar to Multi-level marketing and posting openings that appear to be legitimate, when in reality the posts are continuous.

Example: Monster.com [1]

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The Landers Group Posted by Willy Franzen on Friday, May 23, 2008 [2]

steve October 22, 2008 at 11:17 pm

Malicious Job Posts/ Join the discussion NOW!!!!

These companies: Eagle Vision Marketing, Inc. The Landers Group, L. A. Marketing, Dynasty Marketing Solutions, Inc,Scanno Advertising, Inc., and Jane Landers Foundation use a malicious practice of trying to lure job candidates into their offices for a position that does not include a salary but is based on a sales commission, and based on a business model similar to multi level marketing.

The interviews often take place as a group. The care little about your education, experience, or background. The “POST” is considered “Malicious” much like websites contain malicious content, or computer viruses. They are at the user’s risk. An example of a “malicious Job Post” can be seen in a daily updated search sent out by legitimate search engine companies. Malicious job posting companies can be seen throughout the job availability update. They make it more difficult to filter jobs that are available, legitimate, and do not involve multi-level marketing as its practice.

Don October 23, 2008 at 4:45 pm

Once again add Scanno Advertising and Dynasty Marketing Solutions, Inc in Anaheim CA. They are the same misleading and scamming company.

Umberto October 23, 2008 at 8:21 pm

Malicious Job Posts/ Join the discussion NOW!!!! Dynasty Marketing Solutions, Inc Scam Rip off

Scanno Advertising and Dynasty Marketing Solutions, Inc in Anaheim CA. To all job seekers do not waste your time and gas to visit these rip off, scam artists.

tracy October 24, 2008 at 3:52 pm

I also made the mistake of going in for an interview with Dynasty Marketing Solutions, Inc aka Scanno Scammo advertising. These people are so full of bull. Stay away from these scammers, rip offs, liars.

B October 28, 2008 at 2:35 pm

Question about Eagle Vision Marketing, Inc.:

Steve, you mentioned Eagle Vision as falling under malicious job posts, but I haven’t been able to find any bad reviews on the company after a google search; do you or anyone else have any more info. you could give me since I have an “interview” that I’m now reconsidering given the nature of their post on careerbuilder.

Glad I found this site regardless

RL October 29, 2008 at 11:43 am

Go ahead and add Pacific Advertising Group in that scam list. I just did a two day in row interview and went through the whole scenario of promises of a management position. I also went to ” a day of observation” and stood in front of a grocery store for 10 hours trying to talk to every customer that walks and walks out.
I was skeptical from the very beginning when they had rap music and a movie playing on the front desk. When the receptionist would answer the phone, she would answer with “Marketing, may I help you?” Not even once she answered with the proper name. I took me 30 minutes to find this office because they didn’t have a sign.
So the whole experience was bogus. I am located in the Las Vegas area so don’t get scammed by this company. All you do is sell coupons, that may or may not be accepted by the so called 500 fortune companies.. for free! Pacific Advertising Group is one of them..

X November 3, 2008 at 4:03 pm

In the Boston Area:
World Wide Acquisitions: http://www.WWAcquisitions.com
The Acquisitions Group Inc: http://www.theacqgroup.com
Business Solutions International, Inc. (BSI Boston): http://www.bsiboston.com
and
Dynasty: http://www.d-sty.com

Z November 3, 2008 at 8:35 pm

this company also goes under the alias as world access marketing or atleast used to.

This may be a new company name because it was very difficult for me to find information on their previous company name.

Pretty much all the same things listed above.

anyone in northern nj please save yourselves the time of coming to this scam job at IS-G in lodi

Megan November 10, 2008 at 6:02 pm

Thanks to everyone! I am due back tomorrow morning for the “second interview”. The interview today was way too easy, and I’m so glad I read all this information. I had a strange feeling about this, as I really didn’t have an understanding of the actual job. Won’t be showing up tomorrow!

Scanno Advertising, Anaheim, CA.

RJ November 14, 2008 at 2:35 am

I also have an interview with Scanno Advertising next week. I’m thinking about going on it and taking a digital tape recorder that I can post online for everyone. What do you guys think?

Meg November 14, 2008 at 3:51 pm

They run under BMF Global and M.A.X.I.S. Consulting in Portland, OR. If you google their name, this article shows up before their website. Check out what they did to this poor girl:

http://www.portlandtribune.com/news/story.php?story_id=120960222985177900

Patrick November 18, 2008 at 10:27 am

Hello all, it’s great to see an article like this exposing all of these fraudelant companies. I unfortunately was sucked into one of these companies after I graduated from college(MJ Promotional Group in Cincinnati, OH). At first everyting sounded great, and I would run my own company, and I started in the warm part of fall. Everything was good at first, but then I’d see the increase in turnover, and the people who stayed would just bad mouth the ones that left(the smart ones if you ask me). I was with the company for about 6mos, and made next to nothing, and would like to warn anyone even considering one these companies to STAY AWAY! I have so much information I could provide about my experience if needed, I’ll check back here periodically.

Btw you’re forgetting several major companies part of DS MAX in St. Louis, DC, Boston and Chicago. That’s where some of the big money earners were. I can’t recall the names becasue I worked for the company in 2004-2005. I know Tom Spiro in Chicago and Derrick something in Chicago as well. The owners of the companies in the other cities, were almost mythical figures that you only met at regional conferences, where the brainwashing was put on to the max. I really hope this all helps.

Patrick November 18, 2008 at 10:38 am

Oh yeah Derek Colontonio is in the other CHicago office in the suburbs, and I do believe that Mark Kernan is in St. Louis. The office in downtown Chicago run by Tom Spiro is called Victory Promotions, or Victory Marketing. And the office in DC is called CRC Marketing if I do believe.

Joel November 20, 2008 at 1:33 pm

I have an interview in 1 hour with BMG global in Portland, OR. I think I’ll call about 5 minutes after I was supposed to be there to cancel it. That seems like the type of respect these types of companies deserve.

I was wondering why the job description was so vague, so I got curious and googled it, and came to this site. Thanks for the info, glad I didn’t waste the gas money or time putting on a business suit and going to the interview.

Brandy November 23, 2008 at 12:14 am

I think you guys should check out Ares Enterprises, based in Seattle. While I haven’t actually been there, their job posting is like a carbon copy of the ones mentioned.

from a day past November 23, 2008 at 4:10 pm

Did you hear that The Landers Group closed, but is re-opening under a new name of SPORTS MARKETING INTERNATIONAL????????

Matt Kelly lives in an apartment????? I thought he had millions!!!

from a day past November 23, 2008 at 4:44 pm

Have you seen the latest employment ad???????

NEW PLAYERS!!!! NEW PHONE NUMBER!!!! SAME LOCATION!!!!

ENTRY LEVEL SPORTS MARKETING & CUSTOMER SERVICE – WE TRAIN!
Sports Marketing, Inc.
Apply Now >>

Job Snapshot
Location:
Sherman Oaks, CA 91423

Employee Type:
Full-Time/Part-Time Employee
Industry:
Sales – Marketing
Advertising
Entertainment
Manages Others:
No
Job Type:
Entry Level
Marketing
Customer Service
Experience:
None
Relocation Covered:
No
Posted:
11/12/2008
Contact Information
Contact:
Brittany James
Phone:
818-907-8612

So we have Brittany James….. is this a new hired gun????

dt November 24, 2008 at 11:55 am

wow, thats what I have to say wow!!! As I think I am doing research on the company I had an interview with, I come to find out that it has a possibility of being a scam. I called the person that contacted me about an interview and asked questions about your company having a reputation for being a scam and she didn’t have a response. I asked what would I be doing and she said biz to biz selling. she was very vague and couldn’t give me a straight answer. Thank you for this site and to all readers please be aware!!!

dt November 24, 2008 at 11:56 am

scanno advertiding stay away!!!!

Someone November 24, 2008 at 6:21 pm

I had a gut feeling about Pacific Advertising Group being a scam, their website is just so vague and never says what someone in the business actually does daily. I looked up exactly what the article says, Pacific Advertising Group scam, and found you guys. Well, I canceled my interview right away, after I called and one guy answered “Advertising?”… I knew that was it. Will there be any problems with these people? As in will they bother me in any way? Thanks.

chris December 2, 2008 at 12:19 pm

Well I too am glad I did a Google search. I was contacted by Pacific Advertising Group. It apprears that these guys are part of this Landers scam.

I have to admit, I became skeptical when I looked at their website. It had NO information on it that was of any use and the text on it looked like someone bought a cheap template and added regular text to the top. Very low quality. That prompted my search which brought me here.

Thanks for saving me some time today.

Not falling for it December 4, 2008 at 9:03 am

I landed a 2nd interview with The Acquisition Group in Framingham, Ma and will be canceling. I was looking for a Marketing position not a sneaky sales job.

OMG December 4, 2008 at 11:50 am

Pacific Advertising A.K.A JMO Promotions is a scam….no website because they are new to Vegas….well if they were moving to Vegas and had a company in another state, they would still have a website….RED FLAG!

c town December 4, 2008 at 10:03 pm

Let me be the third one to put “Pacific Advertising Group” in Las Vegas in the list……….like you have all said…..seemed pretty shady to begin with…….crappy office, no real information is given about the company……….sure glad I came here…………guess it goes to show if it seems too good to be real, it probably is…

Roger December 13, 2008 at 10:30 am

Add Latitude group to the list in Emmeryvile CA. Alon Brenner was promoted by Landers group and heads this scam office.

Matt December 15, 2008 at 11:28 pm

Sports Marketing International is shady business. I wasted an entire day being “evaluated” annoyingly going “business to business” for more than 10 hours. Save your energy and time by staying away from these predators.

Nickie December 18, 2008 at 5:19 pm

Wow- I am very glad I googled MAXIS and found this page and other like it. I will definitely stay away and not interview.

Bill December 21, 2008 at 1:13 pm

I would like to add Dynasty Marketing Group in Milwaukee. They do all the same things that you guys talk about. The door to door. The B2B as they call it. Business to Business. The manager will just keep leading you on to believe that you can do it. It is just a big brain washing campaign. If you don’t want to lie to people everyday and for the rest of your life. Then don’t ever get involved with these companies. You will loose money working for them.

Karen December 22, 2008 at 9:51 pm

Have an interview tomorrow with BSI Boston….but….now I think I might cancel. Does anyone have any scoop on them?

Ronald December 25, 2008 at 7:47 pm

I interviewed with a marketing firm just like this in Columbia, SC. It goes by the name Apple, Unlimited. This company has almost all of the aforementioned signs and symptoms listed above. Unfortunately, they have a fairly insidious tactic to lure people in: they do event-based marketing for non-profit organizations.

Basically the breakdown I got is that they set up tables in front of Wal-Marts and other such places. You send up selling water bottles, oversized children’s books, race cars, and other items under the guise that you are generating funds for the non-profits. You get a tiny slice of the price of the items as your commission (the only pay you will see) and the rest goes up the heiarchy, with the managers and the owner taking progessively larger and larger bites of the income you made.

After you’ve been there a while and have sold enough of that crap, they make you an “assistant manager” with a fixed income, and you are responsible for getting more gullible college grads and jobseekers to do the same work you were doing. Eventually you get promoted to manager, and are encouraged to relocate to another city where you will set up your own “event-based marketing firm” to start the cycle all over again.

All this I learned just from my “second interview,” which was just an excuse to get me to take a day off of work from my current job and help two of their employees sell some of their stuff. I basically worked for free that day, and they told me nothing of what to expect when I went out there. They did not tell me I was going to be two hours away from home in front of Wal-Mart on the hottest day of the year, sans sunscreen and wearing my most uncomfortable pair of “interview only” dress shoes.

Basically these marketing firms sound like a pyramid scheme, or like the Mafia, with all the profits flowing up towards the top of the pyramid while you do all the grunt work. I basically told them I wasn’t interested in the job. I’m a little wiser now, however, and I’m glad in a way that I did go through that experience, because I’m able to help people avoid those same traps as well.

from the past January 4, 2009 at 3:01 pm

Matt Kelly has owned several offices….. I guess he dumped Curly and Latta — and now he has Brittany James…. He is running his ads under both Sports Marketing, Inc, and Sports Marketing International, Inc… BEWARE that is all I can say!

To the asst manager who wanted to say nice things and work hard….. HORSEPUCKY is what I have to say….. you practically kill yourself working for this company……. and it is not the way GOOD companies work.. I just talked to an attorney who works down the street from the LA office, and when he sees these people come to his office, he just wants to tell them to quit…… he knows the pain, and so do I.

if you want to read about matt Kelly…. go here——- you will get an ear full….

http://groups.msn.com/DSMAXTheAftermath/alumni.msnw?action=get_message&mview=0&ID_Message=8436&LastModified=4675705291669381390

How can anyone look up to this guy…. and the las Vegas office, yeah, I worked with the girl that was about to leave to set that office up————– nice girl, hard worker, and she left her boyfriend behind for this job……`

OrangeCounty January 16, 2009 at 3:28 pm

OMG, I JUST applied to Scanno and Dynasty Marketing at CareerBuilder, but I’m so glad I googled those two names! I live in OC, CA, and worked for a pharmaceutical company as a temp worker, but got laid off recently. Now that I think about it, it all comes to a sense: even those huge multi-billion-dollar companies let people go and can’t afford to keep them–why would those little companies whose names you’ve never even heard of would hire “experience-less” newbies as entry-level managers and/or sales agents, especially at this kind of economy? I’ve been to several shady interviews before and now I finally came to a conclusion: Any company that requires YOUR OWN MONEY for training is likely to be a scam. Likewise, any company that would gladly hire inexperienced people as professionals (sales, marketing, etc.) is likely to be a scam. Thanks, Willy and others, for your valuable information! :-)

I learned

Charlotte January 26, 2009 at 10:09 pm

There are also new companies in Charlotte, NC. It seems like they change their name often and keep their websites vague. One resource I found VERY helpful was the Better Business Bureau. DO NOT apply to:

Queen City Events
Prodigy Conceptz
90 Ten Marketing
Triple M Events
JLT Marketing and Association
ACG Marketing and Associates
Precise Marketing Concepts
EIB International Inc/EMS

I found it helpful to plug in the phone number of the company on the BBB’s website.

Brian January 30, 2009 at 3:14 pm

I just had (and canceled) an interview with Banker’s Life, as an insurance agent. I noticed they apparently have a 90% turnover rate. Also, they were deeply involved in Enron. Someone said on a forum that the company expects you to sell to your friends, then you get fired.

Meredith February 2, 2009 at 2:31 pm

BSI Boston is now going under the name Northeast Consulting – BEWARE.

Concerned February 5, 2009 at 1:11 pm

A word to the wise…. Matt Kelly is sending out 1099- MISC reports, and you need to review them… He is saying even if you worked for the Landers Group…. the you worked for Sports marketing International which is a misrepresentation if you didn’t…

You will need to talk to your accountants or tax preparers to find out how to deal with what he declares he paid you, as these sums may not be correct…

I am horrified to learn for 10 consecutive 72 hours weeks of work, all that was made prior to pay outs was $2,000….. what kind of employment is this?????

Everything this man paid out was cash….. how can we be sure these sums are correct?????

Santi February 18, 2009 at 7:45 pm

The MAXIS Consulting Group is one of these companies located in Tigard, OR. Big ups to this website and for doing my research before going to meet these folks!

Lucille Ojeda February 19, 2009 at 3:14 pm

My son recently took a job with a company I’ve been suspicious of from the beginning. It’s called RedZone International based out of Hawthorne, NY. The same deal: he got called in just on the basis of his sketchy resume; he came in for a 10 minute interview and was told only 5 of 30 would be called the next day; the next day he got a congratulatory call from them and told to come in and get “work papers”. He started the following day at 5:45 where he met the team leader at his house and then basically shadowed him all over New Jersey for the whole day. He got home at 7:30. The following day he didn’t get home until 9:30PM, because the “team” went out for dinner (for which he had to pay) and then had to go back to the office to purchase a $40 “package” which has to be memorized for work. Imagine that! They have to pay for their own work materials. I so want my son to tell them off and walk out but I don’t want to get him started in the workforce with a bad attitude. In the meanwhile, his car is in the shop and he’s rented a car to get to and from work; purchase a suit and a couple of shirts and ties; and now purchased the $40 “package” required for his job. Unbelievable!! Anyone heare of Redzone International?

FloridaVictim February 21, 2009 at 9:23 pm

The company, “Ample Opportunity” in Orlando, Florida is A COMPLETE SCAM. I ended up running away when brought me in secret with a mean girl in her brokendown car to a boulevard to a tatoo shop sell discount office supply BULLSHIT. They said “it’s not door to door” but it is. They said on this “day two interview” that I will be going to different companies meeting managers. BULLSHIT. CAREERBUILDER is not trustworthy, and completely loaded with these entry level job scams- it makes me not just careerbuilder at all- avoid this website at all costs.

lasvegasgirl February 25, 2009 at 4:11 am

so i went on a first interview with pacific advertising group and it didnt seem right.
told my husband about it , he said it sounded weird so he tried looking up info and the ‘official’ website had something about denver and didnt give any info. the officeis ghetto,small, and they were kinda blasting music. a lady went to the restroom and i was being nosey and looked and saw a big empty warehouse behind her. the office itself had three small rooms. when the recptionst answered the phone she said ‘marketing’. so yeah.
enjoy wht ive found:

BBB RatingBack To Top Based on BBB files, this business has a BBB rating of F.

Reasons for this rating include:
Failure to obtain a required competency license.
Length of time business has been operating.
BBB does not have sufficient background information on this business.

Click here for an explanation of BBB Ratings.

LicensingBack To Top As of 10/24/2008, the Bureau has been UNABLE to confirm this company has a valid local business license for the locale in which they operate. IF A CONSUMER DOES BUSINESS WITH AN UNLICENSED FIRM, THEY DO SO AT THEIR OWN RISK.

http://www.vegasbbb.org/bbb_rated_acc_rpt.asp?bbbid=78157&tr=rated&lg=F&ex=11%2C15%2C26#rat

GUAlum February 26, 2009 at 3:01 pm

I appreciate everyone’s contributions, I just heard from MAXIS yesterday, as well as Oregon Marketing Group which appears to have the same address. Phoenix Marketing Group looks like a similar setup based on website and a location that is also in Tigard, Oregon. I also have qualms about Cache Marketing Alliance especially with no website to look at. I hope someone finds this info useful.

Amanda March 4, 2009 at 5:48 pm

Thank goodness for older brothers…

BSI (Business Solution Inc.) wanted to have an interview with me last year and my brother told me it was a load of crap… then today I got an e-mail from Northeast Consulting Inc wanting an interview with me, mind you I don’t ever remember applying for this position with Northeast Consulting. I am so glad my brother came across this website to see that BSI = Northeast Consulting! Thanks for everyone’s comments, it’s super helpful to see that I’m not the only one who has fallen for this-almost twice!

Nell March 10, 2009 at 12:50 pm

for the publisher, please email me, ive worked for the landers group for 2 years and i have some dirt i would love to spill

Kelly March 18, 2009 at 2:18 pm

Does anyone know about EIB International in Chicago area?

Bubs March 18, 2009 at 10:52 pm

Who do I talk to about reporting these companies, I have and address and phone, but I won’t post those yet, because they might have people doing net searches for that stuff and have them clear out or something.

Ron Amos March 19, 2009 at 7:11 pm

My name is Ron Amos and I can honestly say after being involved with Smart Circle International, and Dynasty Marketing Sollutions that these companies are scam operations. I was one of the those unfortunates that went to one of there interview and was alledgedly hired. I worked for two weeks, (12 hour days Monday thru Friday and 14 hour days Saterday and Sunday) and was fired on my 14th day after having sold three subscriptions for them to Direct TV. When I asked them for my money for the two weeks I worked, they said I made no sales and therefore I would not be getting any compensation.
What I was told on my interview was that if I got hired that I would be paid $500 a week while I was in training that any sales I made the commisssions would go to the Sales rep they sent me out with. I was further told that at the end of my third week I would then have the choice to go on straight commission or continue to just recieve $500 a week which ever was the greater.
So when the alledged owner of Dynasty Marketing Sollutions Dewayne Long fired me, I asked him for my $1000 pay for the two weeks and he said I had no pay coming because if they paid people like that they would go broke before they would make enough sales to cover such an expense. He then tried to play stupid and say that he was going to have to find out who was telling intervees this pay information. I told him it was the first lady I interviewed with Latrees (I still don’t know her last name) and Dewayne said she would never say anything like that. Si retoreted, “So you aren’t going to pay me as I was told and I am not going to get paid for any of my sales either? He replied that I never made a sale so I had no commissions coming either. So, I have Dewanye Long, Dynasty Marketing Sollutions, and Smart Circle International all caught in a conspiracy to defraud people from the hard and I mean had earned money when they go to work for them. I am in the proccess now of figuring out how I am going to file crimminal complaints and civil law suits naming all of them including Direct TV for there deliberate, fraudulent, activities.

Sincerely
Ron Amos
Citizens Law Group
Specialists in prosecuting Government officials

Dennis March 23, 2009 at 2:01 pm

red flag like #10 for northeast consulting/bsi boston= there name does not show up on the sign for the building or for their office on the third floor.

AMM March 26, 2009 at 8:09 pm

I AM SO GLAD I FOUND THIS SITE!!! I just graduated and really want to get into a business related field in Chicago. You can add GLM aka Green Light Marketing (as I found out), VMI, and EIB International Inc to the list. They all had the same careerbuilder info–different addresses and phone numbers–and their websites appeared to be a little unprofessional so I was a little warry to begin with. Not only that but the next day I received emails from all three saying they wanted to set up an interview, but I needed to call them to set it up. So I did some research and found a lot of info on ripoffreport.com. All I can say is DO RESEARCH! A good place to go to is the Better Business Bureau website (bbb.org) or even call them. If you can’t find them on the site or have a low rating THAT IS A BAD SIGN!!!

Bart March 27, 2009 at 1:09 am

Geeeeezz guys… Look its not a”scam”. Its just not a “career”. Its probably one of the best things that a college grad can do to learn basic sales and work ethic. I did it when I was 18 and made anywhere from 150 – 200 bucks per day. Not a whole lot but I was learning alot about how to talk to pure strangers and motivate people. I only worked there for 6- 8 months but I ended up meeting my future business partners there. 9 years later we have 3 successful businesses that are doing GREAT! You get out of it what you put in. There are no benefits, or salary, or cushy leads thrown your way. But get used to it if you want to have a career in sales and make money. I think it was a very positive experience for me and and my partners. The ones who complain will probably be the ones that always complain… and for that they get a nice steady job that earns between 30 – 50k…

sean April 7, 2009 at 8:14 am

I might have ran into one of these scams (Pacific Advertising Group). Thak you for the heads up I will look out for it.

bobby April 7, 2009 at 11:33 am

i saw red flags all over the place when i walked in for my interview, the sign for the company looked like it had been placed there recently, when i went on my 2nd interview out in the feild with the manager, her car still had new jersey tags on it yet she said she had been a manager there at this Virginia location for over a year, we were kicked out of several places for people claiming we had been trying to sell them stuff they didnt need. It was a weird day and never wanted to go back to that place. I didnt go to college for 4 years to sell crap door to door.

mike April 9, 2009 at 8:11 pm

Wow, this is very enlightening just went to an initial interview for GLM Inc.(Green Light Marketing)in Chicago. They seem like a legitimate company and wasn’t too knowledgable about them so I decided to do some research on them and found several negative reports on Ripoffreport.com and now I found this site. In my opinion if a company is getting several negative reports and they aren’t well known then it is best to trust your instincts. Seems like GLM (Green Light Marketing) would be a waste of time. Thanks to all who post on this site.

Maddie April 28, 2009 at 10:09 pm

Holy crap. I am SO glad I found this! I had an interview tomorrow with a company called Sports Plus STL, in St. Louis, Missouri. Totally not going now! That is so frustrating that it’s all a scam. I posted my resume online and literally FIVE minutes later, they called to set up an interview. Here is their website: http://www.estream.com/sportsplusstl/

K - Niz May 8, 2009 at 10:08 pm

Dynasty Inc. Huge Scam! BEWARE

Robert May 9, 2009 at 9:54 am

I have a few more for you, all in Pittsburgh, PA. The Garysson Group, Executive Sports, and 3 Rivers Innovative Strategies. They all have flash, fancy websites however none of them are actually legitimate.

Chris May 15, 2009 at 3:17 pm

Has anyone ever heard of Superior Concepts? They are located in Oklahoma City. The claim to be a “Sports and Entertainment Marketing Firm”.

aggrevated May 16, 2009 at 5:04 pm

i have a “second” interview with a company in TX under the name HDM Marketing Concepts..anyone know anything about them? they have the “flashy” websit, but everything that has happened is matching up with everyone that says these other companies are “scams”. they told me i would be selling INTUIT, somewhat like QuickBooks, to small businesses, they said its “face to face”….another way of saying “door to door?” did not go to college to do this BS. oh they also told me my second interview would be job shadowing. if you know anything, let me know.

Jeff May 19, 2009 at 2:39 pm

I had a similar experience with a “company” called Evantage Inc in North Dallas. I just graduated college and I got a call from them. I should have been suspicious about their website because there was really nothing on it and no literature at all anywhere on the net which should have raised a red flag. They claimed they moved from New York and Atlanta to expand here in Dallas.

Usually these places will rent out a suite in a big building. Their company name won’t even be anywhere on the door. Only about 4 people will be in there. Usually 1 HR/secretary girl and 3 others who have offices who do the interviews. The offices are bare and nothing on the walls at all. The interview is very brief and vague. It’s all a big scam to get you in there. Anytime they say on your 2nd interview you will shadow someone, that’s apart of this big “marketing” employment scam. You will be going door to door and business to business using shady tactics to try and sell people stuff.

former employee May 21, 2009 at 4:23 pm

I worked for Scanno Advertising Group for about 5 months and got far enough in the MLM scheme to become a team leader and start travelling to different cities to learn/network/work. I quickly had to drop out because it just plain wasn’t worth my time anymore. It was all commission. I worked 12 hour days as “Team Leader” and still the $12/18 per hour average i was making based on my direct sales wasn’t cutting it and wasn’t worth all the pressure and exhaustion that came along with it (I was stressing about making rent & not having a social life outside of work). Very few people are cut out for it. The only thing good that came about it was that I lost about 10-15 pounds from walking my ass off ALL DAY & everyday (and even some saturdays) trying to talk to at least 200 people that day (that’s the number they give you if you want to get consistent “yesses”). I learned alot about sales and being able to talk to and read any and every type of person, which I’ll take with me forever, but like I said, its gruelling work and only a select few who are fast talkers and REALLY REALLY love doing that kind of stuff will succeed. That’s why they recruit anyone who applies…because it hard to find that person who will stick with it. Its all a numbers game….

Laurie May 29, 2009 at 8:32 am

Hey has anyone heard of Northeast consulting based out of Braintree, MA??? I’m supposed to go on an interview on Monday, but I’m wondering if it’s gonna be a waste of time. The website is http://www.northeastconsultinginc.com/.

Paul May 29, 2009 at 1:19 pm

CORConcepts was a rip-off as well as MarketingFX…these are are in the Chicago Land Area, but has anyone heard anything about Sports Marketing Inc.?

Kim Lauridsen June 3, 2009 at 11:35 am

THANX FOR NOT LETTING ME WASTE MY TIME ON USELESS THINGS WHEN I CAN BE TRYIN TO GET A REAL JOB THAT’S NOT TRYIN TO ROB PEOPLE OF THEIR TIME

Lynn June 3, 2009 at 12:12 pm

Had the exact same experience with a company called Boomerang Marketing in Chicago. Hesitant to call it a full-blown scam but DEFINITELY misleading! Any legit question I asked was met with a vague answer or simply “we’ll discuss that later in the hiring process”

Ended up wasting a whole day being driven around Chicago suburbs by shady characters. Around 4 hours in I asked to be taken back to the office (and my car!) and they refused. I started telling all the legit business people they were harassing what a scam the company was and not to trust them…at least it made them take me back!

AT June 3, 2009 at 11:03 pm

Add TJC Inc in Cincinnati and TableRock Inc to the list in Cincinnati (I think subsidiaries of Cydcor). I worked for tjc for 3 days, plus the all-day 2nd interview, and made NO money for my time. Thank God I got out when I did.

Dean June 6, 2009 at 12:03 am

Don’t forget, NY Promotional Events. They are a huge scam group in Deer Park, NY. and somehow they got the NY Times to post their ad in the Marketing section of their jobs board. Is that how bad the economy has become ?

They claim to offer positions in “marketing, customer service, event coordination, and public relations” but in reality, it’s all fused into one actual position: solicitor. I called up and spoke to a girl named Alexandra Giblin. She is extremely friendly and sets you up for an immediate interview, and of course you become excited because you feel as though you’re on your way to getting a great job.

You interview with either one of three people: A girl named Jessica Lopez, or two other guys named John and Rob. They each tell you how they made a success of themselves starting at entry level marketing, to inspire you. They then set you up for a secondary interview to observe at one of their “events”.

Well, much to my surprise the “event”, the fund-raiser marketing event we attended, was in front of a gas station harassing people who are just trying to pump their car with gas to buy Nascar FW1 car wax. These are their so-called “events”.

Also, they won’t mention until last interview that there is no base salary- it is all commission based. Now, ofcourse most of the money earned goes to NY Promotional Events, right into Jessica Lopez’ pretty little pocket, while you get whatever tiny percentage they feel like throwing at you.

A HUGE waste of time, do not even bother they are SCAM ARTISTS.

Krystal June 15, 2009 at 12:01 pm

Thanks so much for the informative comment! I almost wasted my time with Pacific Advertising Group. I am also in Las Vegas area and the receptionist answered the phone exactly the same way that RL described.

Thank you so much!

Jeff June 17, 2009 at 4:29 pm

OK guys, I’m just going to emphasize the company name with the word scam next to it, so that it gets more google hits. I went to the first preliminary interview today and I was invited back for a follow up tomorrow. Bull. I mean in reality they are a company, but they are shady and they’re a company hidden beneath scaly skin. I knew something up: tons of young adults waiting in the lobby–a white, loose-leaf paper reading, “The Acquisition Group” scotch-taped to the front door–a quick, dodgy interview with a sleeze to, “put a face to a resume”–small, tiny office for forty-plus employees. The whole thing was a sketchy experience, but I must admit that they are easy to fall for–even if you are bright and “don’t fall for scams.” This thing is easy to fall for. Don’t get scammed! The company’s name was: The Acquisition Group Inc. SCAM SCAM SCAM SCAM. Don’t fall for it. They’re on Monster.com. They’re on indeed.com. They’re on careerbuilder.com. Don’t fall for it: The Acquisition Group is a scam.

I hope this shows up on Google, and I hope that this was helpful to people.

Take care, everyone.

KC June 18, 2009 at 6:09 pm

The new name is Global Marketing Inc. It’s allllllll over careerbuilder.com and hiring sites like that. Of course, I was intrigued by the listing and sent my resume and was really surprised when I got an email response a few hours later. Too good to be true because it is! The person saying they are the human resource manager is Stacy Joseph. They gave me the address to the company and when I searched the address in Google, it’s a completely different company! I also called the number they provided and asked them for their website, the “receptionist” said it’s still under construction but in the job posting it says this company has been in business for a long time. BS up the wazoo. DO NOT APPLY FOR GLOBAL MARKETING! Here is the email I got:

“Global Marketing, Inc.
3333 Bowers Ave Suite #130
Santa Clara, Ca 95054
408-200-9895

Thank you for your interest in a position with Global Marketing, Inc. My name is Stacy Joseph, and I am the Human Resources Manager. I’ve received your resume, reviewed your qualifications, past experiences and skills, as well as compared your resume to others received. After evaluating these things against our criteria, I would like to invite you to come in for a personal interview with one of our managers.

Congratulations on being selected, as there were many resumes that were submitted and reviewed. With new locations, new clients, and current campaigns that include some of the area’s professional and amateur sports teams, as well as a few of the region’s premier restaurants, golf courses and entertainment venues on the horizon, it is important that we set up an initial interview as soon as possible.

Please call our office at 408-200-9895 between the hours of 9am to 5pm to schedule an initial one-on-one interview. Please note the interview will take place at our Santa Clara location. Thanks again and we look forward to speaking to you soon!

Sincerely,

Stacy Joseph
Human Resources Manager
Global Marketing, Inc.”

Martin June 22, 2009 at 5:50 pm

Ha Ha! I love that i found this site three weeks after I worked for one of these companies. All is as it should be, even down to the spiel on gas. The funny thing is I had a knack for asking the questions like “who pays for gas” and “what happen to the receptionist I talked with on the phone” (as they tend to use many names). lol, anyway, yes it works, I made like $130 on my first day and quit on my second. It sucks, totally not professional, and not recommended for any college grad with real education seeking to put your talents to work. M.A.X.I.S consulting group inc is definitely one… “you’ll be nothing more than a glorified door-to-door salesman”! – Me

Lawnie June 23, 2009 at 1:00 pm

Here’s another couple in Colorado that I almost fell for..

Entertainment Marketing AKA W.I.T. Enterprises
on 7475 Dakin St in Denver, Co
Steven Reagan
HR Department
Entertainment Marketing, Inc.
Off: (303) 412-6747
http://www.ent-marketing.com

And The Marketing Group
Katy Jones
6160 S. Syracuse Way, Ste. 100
Greenwood Village, CO 80111

Phone: 303-220-9604
Fax: 303-220-9607
Email: hr@rockiesmarketing.com

Sam June 24, 2009 at 7:33 am

The complaints about The Acquisitions Group are all true and it is a scam. I traveled 2 hours because of the tough economy for the first interview which was a sheep herd of people going in to fill out paper questioners and then a 10 minute interview which is only an employee asking you more questions. Talk about a waste of time. The atmosphere there was very unprofessional. (Blasting Hip-hop music while I am trying to answer questions is rude). I knew the company was cheap because the receptionist desk was the same one I had in my apartment that I got for $60 at Wal-Mart. I have researched the company and it is all a scam. It is easy to fall for but thanks to other internet posts and articles I will not waste another 4 hours of my life and gas money for the second interview. Thanks to all who have complained. “The Acquisitions Group” = Scam Scam Scam Scam Scam Scam Scam Scam Scam. Let’s see if that gets google hits.

Matt June 24, 2009 at 4:52 pm

THANK YOU SO MUCH, I had an interview, but not going. I also found a link to this which might be helpful to anyone else questioning this

http://www.portlandtribune.com/news/story.php?story_id=120960222985177900

It’s an article about the landers corp, which is suspiciously close to the “MAXIS Consulting group” I had an interview with, but not anymore

Jesse June 28, 2009 at 3:07 pm

I got the exact same email as KB, and I worked there for a week. It’s a scam.

Jessica June 30, 2009 at 12:07 pm

Omg ! NY Promotional Events is a HUGE SCAM !

I was set up with a interview with this girl Alexandra Giblin. She tells you to call her “allie” she is so nice and bubbly it makes you feel comfortable ! But she is lying to you, she tells you before your first interview that they have office, marketing, customer service, and public relations positions available, and they train you !

I was like so excited when I got the interview, I bragged about it to my mom and dad and my girls. I was so embarrassed, they stuck me in front of an ugly gas station in a bad neighborhood and I had to bother people to buy some car cleaner. It was so humiliating !

I did this for two weeks, and then when I got my pay, i only made $40.00 !!!! Forty dollars for two weeks work !!!!! I was so angry, I wanted to sue ! I didnt know it was commission only !!!!!!!!! But they insist that they told me it was commission only, and I couldn’t do anything about it cuz legally I agreed to it. ARRR !!!!

Big waste of my time !

Old Employee July 7, 2009 at 2:57 pm

I am on the side of the ONE guy I saw write something positive. Does anyone know what direct sales and marketing is!? It is going door to door and that can mean either to businesses or to customers homes. Making one or two hundred dollars a day is pretty darn good for an entry level postion. Some of these companies I’m sure are sketier than others but I know the one I worked for had a respectable manager who worked very hard to shake the stigma of door to door sales being a “scam.” Most are real companies with real people working there and make real paychecks. Not many, but some employees do advance into managemnt roles within the company. I am not sure how this would be the case if it were not a real company.

If you are NOT interested in going door to door here is a tip, do not reply to ads for Direct Sales and Marketing Companies!!!!! I was not brainwashed but I no longer work there. I put the sales experience on my resume and have a great job now but I wouldn’t have gotten my curtrent job without experience. The sales and marketing jobs you are all hoping and expecting to get are not for entry level people like yourselves. Entry level postions are not glamorous and direct sales is no exception. Quit complaining and get over yourselves…. college grads are a dime a dozen. I was one, you are one or you will soon be one! Good luck to you all you complainers and I hope you find a position that is right for you, but you aren’t going to find it on this site!!

Matt Fulton July 10, 2009 at 6:36 am

Hey. Has anyone experienced anything with the Maxis Consulting Group or should I pursue a job opportunity there? Portland, OR.

Dave July 13, 2009 at 5:42 pm

Thank you to ALL of YOU! I was going to travel to Tigard for my initial interview with Maxis Consulting. I was very excited and have extensive professional experience. I started my research after my conversation with Human resources named Terry. Very nice and very professional. After reading this website I was concerned, but still was giving them the benefit of the doubt. II figured I’d call and ask a couple basic questions and if they could answer those without a problem I’d attend the interveiw. After all this type of business is not for everyone, but real business IS for me. I called human resources and spoke with Kathy. I just had three questions:

1: What type of duties would I be doing during the job?

2: Is there door to do sales?

3: What is the pay during training?

I was very respectful. I didn’t have an attacking mindset because after all I still believed that this company was not affiliated with Landers or BMF. In fact, I hadnt even heard about Landers or BMF till this website. She told me she couldn’t answer what duties nor pay because they simply work to set interviews and schedule new employees. She told me door to door sales means residential and they strickly do business to business. Which is a friendly and non threatening way of saying door to door with businesses. When I asked her about the job duties she told me she didn’t know and that was the purpose of the interview. I explained to her I just wanted to know before I drove down (6 hours) because they were compared to Landers and BMF. She suddenly became VERY defensive and said it was only because BMF used to be located across the street, but no affiliation. She then told me there were many qualified applicatants and that she didn’t feel like wasting ten minutes of her time to explain to me the duties of my job. All I wanted was a one minute version not an indepth account of my daily activities. That should be at the interview. She continued on attacking me and told me that I was the one choosing to relocate and it was me who was deciding to apply for them. I couldn’t believe how agressive she was being! She also told me a manager would not call me to talk about the position because a real employee would show up for the interview.

The funny part about this is.. I don’t mind selling business to business. It’s a tough job, but gets your feet in the door and the training and expeirence can really set you up for success in the business world. I admit it’s not for everyone, but it you can look past the 72 work weeks for little pay for a short amount of time, business can lead to huge success.

I realized that if 10 minutes of her time was being “wasted” by answering a few quetions then truly they must be the same type of job. If a business wants you they will spend their time selling you THEIR company. A real qualified employee brings sucess. You wouldn’t let them slip away!

She also said they receive hundreds of these type of calls every week which makes sense to her frustration. I just can’t believe I almost drove 6 hours to interview with them. THANK YOU ONE DAY ONE JOB!!!

Rebecca Pane July 23, 2009 at 4:12 pm

PLEASE add Dynasty Inc. (or just “Dynasty”) and Worldwide Acquisitions to this list. They are both SCAMS and NO ONE deserves to be sucked in!!!!!!!

Molly August 3, 2009 at 11:13 pm

Here’s one that I almost fell for… bummer, I was getting my hopes up for a good marketing job.

Northeast Consulting, Inc. in Braintree, MA.

Here’s there official website: http://www.northeastconsultinginc.com/

And here’s a couple other articles about this scam:

http://freethebasement.blogspot.com/2009/03/job-searching-marketing-scams-and-you.html
http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/457/RipOff0457511.htm

Brian August 4, 2009 at 2:23 pm

The M.A.X.I.S Consulting Group is was The Landers Group has change their name to in the Portland area. Having been suckered in the “job shadowing” for a similar multi-level marketing company in Seattle that sold office supplies to companies door-to-door and getting stuck for an entire day 55 miles from home with no way to leave I knew right away what they were after I interviewed with them a year and a half ago. Unless you like selling Mariners tix door to door, stay away from the M.A.X.I.S Group in Portland, they are the Landers Group.

B August 5, 2009 at 5:58 pm

Thank you all. My college son was very excited about being called to interview with the company of Force. He then was called back for a second interview that said it would take 8 hours working from 12-8 (p.m.) I decided to look into this before he went for the second interview and found this site as well as others that discussed what a scam this is. Shame on these people for trying to take advantage of people. In these economic times when people are desperate for jobs and money is tight it is ridiculous someone is out there trying to scam an average American. I researched and found a list of names these business operate under but all lead back pretty much to the same set up and scam. Right down to the “slick Indian” guy doing the bate and switch interview tatics to throw off naive unsuspecting people desperate for work. Thank you again to all who take the time to respond to these and put this information out there so others do not have to suffer.

Robin August 6, 2009 at 12:44 pm

My Fiance fell for this scam unfortunately.

He has worked in a company in LA called ” Sports Marketting International”. These people that work there are VERY shady. He never ever got paid and he worked 16 hour days. When ever he would bring this up to his “Manager”, he would get excuses and get “promoted”.

If you run across this company, or any like it… RUN!

Rebecca Pane August 12, 2009 at 4:14 pm

My advice? Visit the website before you go for an interview. If they seem as though they’re talking to a potential employer instead of a potential CUSTOMER, then they’re basically just trying to get people to work for them.

Aspiring_guru August 21, 2009 at 9:06 am

you can add Polaris (Financial District) & NY Partners in NYC – 35W (blocks from the Empire). SCAM – SCAM – SCAM – A-LOT! found these on the craigslist job board/post.

I asked very precise Qs prior to my meeting … “is this a salaried position, or commission-based structure?” Of course … I was given incorrect info from my initial phone screening/invitation for an interview. $43 later … I’m home and upset that the opportunity was NOT genuine. What a little lie can do – thanks Jenny. And for the hiring manager, Dave … to insult and put down a fellow employee for giving false info – stating “that she doesn’t know, and has no idea what’s going on” … yet she only works in HR.

NY Partners – prides themselves in working with an energy provider in TX with whom you can only take a logical guess to who it is … other than that same shpeal that others have written on this forum.

Keep it movin everyone … these are the breaks … and we”ll all get our chance to shine!

Bernadette August 21, 2009 at 11:37 am

Not sure if it’s already listed but add Sports Marketing Inc. in Sherman Oaks, CA. I was going to go for an interview and I’m so glad I did my research first. I googled the “President” Matt Kelly of Sports Marketing Inc. and got lots of great information. Thanks a lot! Here are some other reviews:

http://www.ripoffreport.com/The-Landers-Group/Multi-Level-Marketin/The-Landers-Group-Matt-Kelly-FEE59.htm

http://www.ripoffreport.com/The-Landers-Group/Employers/The-Landers-Group-Kelly-Adve-787CD.htm

jay September 3, 2009 at 5:09 am

i responded to an ad on craigslist for Polaris NYC. they called me immediatly. did a quick google search and found out there are shady as hell.

stay away from these slimeballs.

Jenny September 3, 2009 at 5:11 pm

T.A.G. Marketing, Los Angeles, is another scam. I applied on Careerbuilder to a post advertising “entry level marketing jobs”. Allegedly, their company serves Fortune 100 companies like AT&T and Staples. I received a call back later that day from their receptionist, Samantha Marroquin. She wanted to set up an interview immediately. So the next day I went in and the reception room was the standard fake job fare: cute receptionist, big screen TV tuned to ESPN, loud pop music playing over the stereo, and about a dozen wide-eyed young applicants waiting for an interview. Jeez, can’t these scam artists put in the effort to be a little creative/unique? I interviewed with Katie Hsieh who mumbled incomprehensibly whenever I asked her specific questions regarding the job. I declined the offer to attend the second day-long interview, so I was spared that excruciating ordeal, but I DID fall for the initial interview. I’ll tell you why: the receptionist was nice and professional, and I didn’t ask for detailed answers regarding job duties. So there you go! Ask “What exactly does your firm do, and what specifically will I be doing in your entry level position? What specific product are you selling?” Any real business will easily answer such questions.

Long story short, T.A.G. Marketing Los Angeles California. SCAM SCAM SCAM SCAM SCAM SCAM SCAM SCAM SCAM SCAM SCAM SCAM.

Deandrea September 7, 2009 at 3:15 pm

I am a former employee of the Landers Group, and your right, they lure you in with all these big name companies that they “represent”. I fell for it and began the entry level position, within a week I was promoted to the next level. The schedule was horrible. I worked all day from 7am-7pm(9-5 in the field) Monday-Saturday. I had no other problems besides the amount of time spent working. I made bell everyday(profit of 100.00) and the weekly paychecks were great for a 19yr old. That is until our weekly pay schedule was thrown off and we were getting paid bi-weekly, then the bi-weekly pay never came and we were waiting on “backed up leads” to be verified before our pay was distributed. There were so many ups and downs of that job but you could never show it. Everyday after a hard day of soliciting we’d come back to the office and if asked how your day was your only response should be “Awesome”. It was as if I was working with a group of robots. I can recall one day working inside of a Sam’s Club and I made $15 the whole day….I finally quit that crappy job and got a real job with a steady paycheck.

Jonathan September 9, 2009 at 3:12 am

#1 in google for the landers group – congrats willy!

Meredith September 11, 2009 at 3:45 pm

Does anyone know anything about Sports & Entertainment Advertising in Denver? They said there are employees who are in charge of door-to-door sales but that’s not the position they want me for. Has anyone heard of this line before or does it sound legit?

Billy September 14, 2009 at 6:45 pm

Does anyone know anything about SC Marketing in Anaheim? Located at 701 E Ball?

Ed September 28, 2009 at 1:55 pm

Great Post,

Was just about to send my resume to the The Acquisition group in Framingham, Ma. Thank God I googled them first.

Steve October 3, 2009 at 12:53 pm

I just had my second interview yesterday with a company just like these, in Raleigh, NC. I had a bad feeling about it from day one but went anyway because I need a job.

My question is do any of these type companies represent big name companies like Sears and Home Depot, or is this the same type of thing.

At the moment I am thinking I should accept my losses and run. Any advice?

Miranda October 6, 2009 at 2:54 am

I had my first interview with M.A.X.I.S Consulting Group today. My interview was with a very nice bubbly lady named Carrie. She seemed to have a lot of knowledge of the company but spoke very quickly. She said the first interview was just to get to know me and a second interview would be much more informative. She implied that she needed an assistant manager to start asap. The second interview was to see how i related to all the higher-ups and if they thought I was a good fit. So the first interview was short and sweet and I left feeling good, hopeful of my new position. Needless to say I’m not going to my second interview, I am however going to call to ask a few questions. If the response is the same as the rude and defensive responses that others have received, I will share a few words back.

Thank you everyone for all your stories and comments, additionally I just moved here and am actively seeking employment. Any ideas…shoot me an e-mail.

thanks,

Miranda

Lucy October 12, 2009 at 12:37 am

Archetype Solutions is a scam…you can find them on EVERY job search site…even Myspace…AVOID THEM!

I can’t tell you how many times I have had been threatened to have the cops called on me….embarassing.

Jeff Baxter October 21, 2009 at 11:03 am

So, Old Employee, which of the scam companies are you pimping for? Do you enjoy taking money from people to satisfy your selfish immoral ends? Enjoy hell, boy.

dlp October 22, 2009 at 12:21 pm

I am happy for these postings also. I just got a call from Pacific Advertising Group and for some reason I wasnt really happy about the call. Even though I really really need a job. So I googled it and came here. Im happy Im not the only one that felt that way. Thanks guys.

Bill October 27, 2009 at 5:47 pm

Add Dynasty Marketing In Burlington, MA to the list. After scheduling an iternview with the so called venue and sports management firm I decided to cancel. When I googled the company I couldn’t find any history or anything about the company. When i searched Dynasty Burlington, MA all I could find were blogs about how the company is a scam. When I applied I received an email response within 2 hours, telling me to give them a call and im the perfect candidate to set up an interview. I thought it’s the other way around they call there potential employees? I then sent them another application using another email and false name with made up stuff that had nothing to do with marketing, such as cashier at a grocery store again im the perfect candidate.

For your advice do not waste you time, money, or breath on these so called professionals

samantha November 2, 2009 at 2:13 am

Another one of these companies just started in Walnut Creek California. I went through interview #1 and also began researching feeling as though I was not receiving straight-forward answers. I just googled the mission statement of East Bay Concepts and found 5 matching websites.

lauren November 3, 2009 at 1:28 am

i just wasted a week and a day buying into this shit….me and two other chics did some research and feel so stupid for wasting our long hours with these fake people delivering empty promises…two of us have degrees and are not stupid by any means…we were skeptical and did our research and now we have lost time we cannot get back. anyone in the tempe, mesa, tuscon, scottsdale, phoenix area beware of anyone calling themselves owners named vince, johnathan or carissa….sux because i thought these were good people… they even call themselves christians …. what a let down, especially to someone who just moved to the area…dangggg :(

lauren November 3, 2009 at 1:29 am

oh ya…they call their “business” fiat lux enterprises…another to add to the list

Adam November 5, 2009 at 6:54 pm

So here is my bullshit story. Much like the stories posted above this isn’t too different. I actually have a decent job but am looking for better pay. I applied on careerbuilder to a job at SMI or Sports Marketing Inc. Total BS. So I go to the interview… cute receptionist? Check. Big screen tv playing sportscenter? No, the tv was playing Never Back Down. Awful. Nobody ever says their last name at the business either. So when I went in “Andy’s” office there wasn’t anything personal. he talked fast, fed me some lines about the White Sox being a client of theirs. They also can never give a number. Everything that should involve a number Andy would say, “They have been a client of ours for a few years now.” Or, “Here at SMI, we have been in business now for… a number of years.” What the fuck does that mean you D-bag? I was there for no more than 25 minutes and he said he would call me back around 5:30 after they reviewed my qualifications against the other candidates. Sure enough, at about 5:45 Andy calls me. I didn’t answer, so he left me a voicemail, where he fumbled in pronouncing the name of the company. Awesome. I call the guy back. He says after further review I was one of the top candidates and he would like me to come back tomorrow and spend the day from 9am to 6pm. Kiss my ass. I said I can’t. So he won’t let this go and asks me when I am free. I say I will find out next Thursday. He asked me to call him then. Thinking long about this, I decided not to call him back. Stay away from SMI, Sports Marketing Inc. in the Chicago area. This place was located in Lombard.

Unknown November 11, 2009 at 10:48 am

PLEASE ADD:
ECS inc of Long Island City to the list of scams. After reading the post above made by “KC” i realized that i received the same e-mail ALMOST EXACTLY word for word – seems all that was changed was the contact information. RED FLAG.

“ECS, Inc.
44-02 23rd St.
Ste #420
Long Island City, NY 11101

I’d like to thank you for applying to ECS and for your interest in a position with our company. A member from my management staff has received your resume, reviewed your qualifications, past experiences and skills, as well as compared your resume to others received. After evaluating these things against our criteria, I would like to invite you to come in for a personal interview with one of our managers.

Congratulations on being selected, as there were many resumes that were submitted and reviewed. With new locations, new clients, and current campaigns that include some of the area’s professional and amateur sports teams, as well as a few of the region’s premier restaurants, golf courses and entertainment venues on the horizon, it is important that we set up a preliminary interview as soon as possible.

Please call our office at 718-706-6230 to schedule an initial on-on-one interview during our office hours, which are Monday-Friday from 8am – 5pm. Thanks again for your interest and we look forward to speaking with you soon.

Sincerely,

Sarah Peterson
ECS, Inc.
Human Resources
careers@ecs-inc.net

Keith Shelton November 11, 2009 at 10:22 pm

I am so glad I found this. I had a phone interview with a company called PMA Concepts tomorrow. I started doing research so I would be able to talk to them about the company, then I came across this website. Thank you so much.

Luke November 12, 2009 at 4:40 pm

VMI, COR concepts, FX marketing, SMI sports marketing = SCAMS…They are all the same. Stay away and dont waist your time!

Been There November 14, 2009 at 5:28 pm

Well, I have to say, working for TOM SPIRO at VICTORY PROMOTIONS was an experience. I had a great leader who showed me the ropes, worked hard, learned tons and because of my efforts to push myself to be better, make more money (come on guys, everyone likes a massage!) I have subsequently always been employed, I do what it takes and am pretty stoked about it. Working a commission only job teaches a person what work really means, and if you’re good at it enough to teach other people how to make money, that’s a gift. I love my job now. I wouldn’t be as rediculously awesome at it if I didn’t know what I was doing. And I learned all that stuff on the street. Working for Victory Promotions was probably the best thing I’ve ever done. And no, it’s not forever, and yes, it’s totally hard work. But if you can do that, you can do anything.

If you’re unemployed and looking for work, go earn it. That’s what employment is all about- ensuring that stuff moves from person to person, business to business. Sell stuff. Practice because it’s not the easiest thing to do but you can learn how to do it. Earn your money. Once you prove that you can earn it, someone will hire you to work for them. And you’ll know how to ask the right questions and land whatever job you want. You learn how to turn a No into a Yes. It’s a skill, it can be taught, practiced and developed. But even when you’re working for someone, it’s important to know deep down, you’ve got to earn your job too. It’s not a gift or an entitlement. People who work hand and do what it takes are valuable and make bank.

Stop whining, start working. Do what it takes. Talk to the people who earn the most money in the office and do what they do. And then you’ll be earning money too. And then you parlay your SKILLS into a job that you really want.

I’ll hire anyone who was successful door to door. Because I know they have mad skills. They worked for them and will do great in business because they have a solid foundation.

ryan November 17, 2009 at 10:13 pm

You can add JCW Marketing in Charlotte NC. Had an interview tomorrow that I will not be attending. It is exactly what has been described.

Eli November 20, 2009 at 4:54 pm

I worked for PMA Concepts, and after going through the experience, I have to say that as far as I can tell these companies aren’t scams, but are very, very misleading. They are extremely vague with the job description, they throw around big name companies that they “partner with” ( whether it’s true or not I don’t know) they tell you that, they’re only bringing back 4-5 people out of 50 that are interviewed today and you’re one,and on your second interview, the day that you shadow your potential team leader, you’re still not told what you’re going to do until you get close the territory for the day.

I stopped working only after a week because of physical aliments but I have no problems with the work itself, it’s quite easy, but it just wasn’t for me. The only real problem I have with the company was that I was told my paycheck ( I did get leads during my time there) would be mailed to me within two weeks, it’s been more than a month. Whenever I call the receptionist says that the lead manager is on a call and will call me back, he hasn’t so far, and today I kept calling the office and no one answers. I want to think positively of the company, but the way they’re treating my situation is making me think otherwise. I didn’t work for free, I produced and I want to get paid.

Bottom line I feel that this (these) company isn’t a scam, because you do make money, or so I was told, but they are very sketchy with details and how they reveal themselves to you. I feel that no matter what the job is your potential employer should always be upfront on what the job entails.

Willy Franzen November 20, 2009 at 5:03 pm

So, you’re telling me that you were misled by this company, still worked for them, and haven’t been paid, yet you don’t think it’s a scam?

Eli November 20, 2009 at 5:48 pm

Willy, in my case I guess you’re right it was a scam, because I haven’t been paid yet even though I worked and put in hours for the company, but as as much as I could tell there were people who were getting paid and making money, so that’s why I’m not so quick to call it a complete scam. Dishonest and misleading yes, but it’s not a situation where you don’t have to put in large amounts of money ( no money for that matter) just to work or showcase the products. But don’t think that I’m letting them off the hook because I am pissed and frustrated with my situation, because no matter how small the paycheck maybe, its money that is owed to me. I wouldn’t advise anyone to work there or a similar company unless you’re truly desperate, because in my view not getting guaranteed money for that kind of job isn’t worth it.

Broke_N_Educated November 28, 2009 at 11:15 am

Company in Atlanta claims they are a company under AT&T…Fire, Inc. sounds like the same type of thing.

D December 7, 2009 at 4:21 pm

Yep. The Acquisition Group. And just in case you google it and spell it wrong, The Aquisition Group. Definitely appreciate the head’s up about this one. THANK YOU!

Jennifer December 15, 2009 at 10:52 am

Please add Sabres marketing and Royal marketing to the list! (exton, pa)

JSP December 16, 2009 at 5:24 pm

Acquisition Group

I was contacted because they viewed my resume on Careerbuilder. I was called and told they were looking to hire a new director of marketing. The interview was set up very fast within 24 hours which I thought was unusual. I looked at their website and found it uninteresting and decided what the hell… I’m free anyway I’ll go and see whats up. When I arrived to the interview I sat and waited about an hour to meet with a guy. He took my resume and application did not even look at them and started off talking about the company. Periodically he would stop and ask me if this was something I was interested in. Towards the end I stopped him and said “This does not sound anything like the duties of a director of marketing. It sounds like a direct marketing/sales position” He smiled and said exactly. I told him what I was told I was interviewing for and he said that there is fast growth potential into that position. Kinda irritated I said “but that’s not what I was told I was interviewing for which seems a little misleading.” He went on the state more perks about the business and how face to face sales works and how a business makes money. Really irritated I stopped him again and said “did you actually read my resume.?” he said yes and I proceeded to say “you realize I have an MBA and around 9 years experience as I COO for a European Corporation along with 3 years experience as the VP of sales for fortune 500 software company.” He said “yes and that is all great experience which makes you a very competitive candidate for this position. I said “then why are you explaining to me how business works when I obviously have been a C level exec for a company. He stated all companies are different in how they generate money”

(which is true but sales is pretty straight forward) and I stated I’m interested to know more about your compensation package, he went on to explain a guarantee weekly and commissions then jumped into say you have 6 figure potentials with us. I said like a smartass “great but what if I’m shooting for 7 figures in the next two years is that possible?”

And of course he said no. After asking him how long he worked there which was about 1 year I asked if he had made 6 figures which of course was also no. I proceeded to ask what companies they do business with specifically and he named of a company I was formally the Internet Marketing Director for. I asked him about that company and he went on stating all these facts which were not facts but more so misleading information meaning they purchased from the company. I stated well since I have made purchases from Wal-mart, Costco, LL-Bean etc… can I say that I do business with them yes… but that does mean I do business for them…no… Very very irritated I said you must think I’m a fool then by telling me this and even conning me into an interview for a position you are not actually offering and then telling me all these BS perks. Along with the fact your sorry company thinks it’s ok to exploit educated people for shit pay and the fact you think I spent 6 years in two Ivy league institutions to work for 500- 600 bucks a week is truly fucking insulting. I realize times are bad but if you read the bottom of my resume where I provided you with my salary History and requirements you’d know I have a History of making near 7 figures and you probably cannot not afford me at this time. He then said I think we are done and I got up and left.

To my surprise I got an email when I got home, Automated of course asking me in for a 2nd interview. Wow did not see that one coming after a cursed and totally disrespected the disrespectful hiring manager that sucks poor saps in daily to make him money while half of them wait to get paid. It’s very sad it’s not like the old days when people could get jobs by achieving in their fields educated or not. It’s companies like these that are the problem with our work system today. That is also why an education means less today and it’s harder for small companies to exist.

Now I am a candidate for a job as a C-level exec and am even ok with work for less than 60k a year if it’s with the right company and a company going somewhere. I kick myself in the ass daily for leaving my old post to move for my kids but I am one of the lucky few that have a lot of capital to live off of till I find another good job. For all the other poor people that end up taking these positions with these companies only to get screwed in the end expose them for what they are “professionals yes but not in the world of good business, they are professionals at taking advantage of people in hard times and new college graduates lacking to common sense to see through their bullshit”

jessica December 22, 2009 at 1:39 pm

does anybody know anything about a company called NCIS, they are a fragrance company, they changed their name to ACO I was wondering if they were fake.

Melissa December 23, 2009 at 11:03 am

I worked for one of these places for a few months in St Louis and I agree with the FEW people on this message board that have something positive to say. Its DIRECT marketing, what do you think its going to be? Its hard work but at the end of the day you felt as though you earned your money. Yes I “sold out” too and now work a desk job with a steady paycheck. But let me just say that having door-to-door sales on your resume REALLY helps. After putting my direct marketing experience on my resume doors started to swing open for me and I am now on a career path I enjoy. It really shows you what hard work truly is and makes you appreciate getting steadily paid. All I’m saying is go experience it for yourself, if you dont like it its only one day out of your life, your not employed anyways what else do you have to do?

Lala January 6, 2010 at 6:04 pm

I second Jennifer’s comment about Sabres Marketing (Exton/Phila/etc) ~ it is not a real company!!!! beware! Also, anybody heard of Legacy Concepts Inc (www.legacyconceptsinc.com) in King of Prussia, PA~ I have a feeling this is another scam! There is a real Legacy Concepts based out of AL with a different website… I don’t think there would be 2!
Has anybody noticed that these scam jobs all use gmail accounts?

heidi January 8, 2010 at 4:14 pm

Wow! I’m soooo glad I read up on this. I sent in my resume for the” Aquisition Group” of Framingham MA yesterday and they set me up with an interview today. I had a dentist appointment and they didn’t mind if I was late. They were “wrapping up” interviews though and had to get mine in asap. I went to the interview and it felt really strange. There were no company signs just paper taped up on the window. They said they had been there for two years. Shouldn’t they at least have a real sign by now? Inside It was just a bland office setting blaring loud music.
The man took me in for my interview and it lasted all of 10 minutes. I learned nothing about the job except they market for Verizon and Staples. I just told him about my hobbies and experience in marketing which was nil. About 3 hours later they had a “board meeting” and I was invited to the second interview. The whole thing wreeked of scam to me. I can’t afford to quit my day time job for this.

Candise January 13, 2010 at 6:45 pm

Wow.I am really amazed at these experiences. JCW marketing group and Elevations are just like this. I live in Charlotte NC, and i answered 2 job opportunities for both of these companies. Both ads were extremely vague and the ads were almost identical, I almost thought they were the same place but they are both 2 separate places as I have checked up on them some. At both places they wanted to set up an interview, but they would not say what the job was ; they called it a career opportunity. And when I attempted to call JCW back to find out more I was unable to reach the lady who had set the interview. No one ever picked the phone up. I was however able to0 reach Elevations, at which I cancelled my interview. I did resaerch on them and was not happy wth the things people were saying.I do agree with the people who say that is how direct sales are but I think it is unethical to advertise for positions that do not exist and purposely mislead applicants. The ad I answered did not mention direct sales. So people in Charlotte NC area watch out for Elevation Inc
and JCW Marketing Group. And there are also a few more just like them. Just check out their ad for a job see what it looks like and beware of any other company that has anything in common with them.

Avalon January 20, 2010 at 1:30 pm

I got an interview at the company called Sports Plus Promotions at St Louis MO, do u know if this job is a scam? help

Megan January 23, 2010 at 9:09 pm

I have a second interview with Legacy Concepts Inc in King of Prussia, PA but it sounds very similar to these other companies. Anyone know anything about it? I have a feeling it’s also a scam

Omar January 27, 2010 at 10:56 am

Thank you for this website. I had an interview scheduled this afternoon with JCW Marketing. As a college graduate, I was really looking foreward to this. However, I found it funny that no website for JCW Marketing existed, but just their job postings. I called the person, and they said it was under Colossusmg.com, which was under construction because “basketball season just ended.” I don’t know what league she was talking about in January just ended! I looked under the Better Business Bureau and couldn’t find JCW. In fact, the phone number I was given was actually linked to the other company, Colossus Marketing! This was enough for me to raise red flags, so I started looking at some sites and found this one. Thank you for helping me realize this was a scam…

stephen January 28, 2010 at 7:51 pm

This is unbelievable!!! I went for my first interview at The Acquisition Group in Framingham, MA today. Traveled about an hour for a 10 min “interview”. A little over 2 hours later I recieved a phone call to come in for my second interview tommrow. But after researching and reading all of these posts, I do not plan on going back. What a waste of time and gas. I didn’t really get any information about what I would be doing. Just that my second day would be all day shadowing someone. What kind of “interview” is that? Isn’t that more like orientation, and you get paid for orientation? I now realize that there is no guaranteed pay and that is all door to door sales based. I can’t afford to drive 2 hrs, work all day and not have guaranteed pay. There were quite a few people in the lounge with me waiting to be interviewed, and some of them seemed to be way over qualified for this position (just by talking with them). This comapny seems weird and like they don’t really read resumes, they just try to lure you in to doing something, before you even realize what you doing. It sucks because I was going into to the interview thinking it could be a good opportunity. Guess Not!!!!

mika johnson February 2, 2010 at 12:33 pm

Soooo glad I found this blog. I applied for a posiiton with World wide marketing last night, but couldnt find a web address. I got a call back to day and the girl gave me the address http://worldwidemktg.net/ founded by adam gerald. When I googled the company name and the owners name to find more info, I came across ACG marketing, started by the same guy with the exact same website, just in NC: http://webpreview.estream.com/acgmarketinginc_com/. There is no real information on either of these websites about what the do, but from this site, I think I get a good idea. I’m Canceling my interview…. ACG Marketing is now World wide marketing or world wide concepts.

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